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RE: Gibson jacks up Echoplex price
I'm not sure where this faulty information regarding a price increase is
coming from but we haven't increased the price since the EDPP (Digital
Pro Plus) was introduced as far as I can recall.
Some of you know my History with Gibson and I won't bore the rest of you
with the details but I've been with the Echoplex for some time and am
very close to it. Had a price increase occurred, I would have utilized
the list to inform you myself. As Andy has pointed out, Straight Edge
has been very kind in working with Gibson since my return and continues
to provide a very high quality product to us regardless of the
difficulties. They are owed much credit in the continuance of the EDPP.
As Andy has also touched on, we are coming to the end of the production
run from the latest order between Gibson and Straight Edge. At this
time, we're working to overcome the exchange rate on what will hopefully
be the next supply of them. As you are likely aware the pound and the
dollar have been moving in opposite directions. Both sides are actively
working to keep the EDPP flowing smoothly.
It is likely that we will run short again soon but I'm working hard to
avoid a large gap in delivery. As a few of you have pointed out, the
EDPP is in need of a hardware upgrade and balancing the end of life
cycle of one version while we move to another is a challenge.
Regardless of the varying opinions on Gibson as a company or on its
ownership, there are many of us here who are passionate about the EDPP
and appreciative of the passion loopers have for it as a tool for
While I can't answer all of my emails quickly, I still welcome your
input on the EDPP, its future direction, desired features and formats
and anything relevant that you'd like to share.
I hope this is helpful.
Kevin Van Pamel
From: Andy [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 11:56 AM
Subject: RE: Gibson jacks up Echoplex price
I have no idea why Gibson has made this price increase and I will look
into it. We are selling EDPs to them for the same price agreed nearly 2
years ago. No EDPs have been made for over a year due to the lack of
payment to us from Gibson but a deal has been struck, (i.e. you pay up,
we send EDPs), and the remainder of our stock is now moving.
For any future production however, it's not about the technology getting
cheaper; the technology used in the EDP is from the 90s and the parts
are all going up in value. Many parts are not manufactured anymore but
there is plenty of 'new old stock' which unscrupulous distributors make
us pay through the nose for; $20 for the Crystal CODEC is a good
example! As for memory, it hasn't been manufactured for years and is
impossible to find in production quantities. I had the last 4MB SIMMs
especially manufactured in the US and we bought 2500 pieces to get a
price of $3 each. That's $12 a set at prime.
None of this should have a bearing on any current stock though for the
reasons mentioned previously.
I couldn't possibly comment on any other reason why they might want more
of everyone's hard-earned cash but those who know of the guy in charge
can draw their own conclusions :)
EDP Production Manager.
(It's lucky that's not my only job or I'd have starved a long time ago)
From: Brian [mailto:Brian@porterresearch.com]
Sent: 21 September 2004 19:48
Subject: Gibson jacks up Echoplex price
I was just about to get an Echoplex but then Gibson jacks up the price
$150 in a period of two months!! This technology is getting cheaper,
how could this happen? Has anyone else noticed this outrage?
I've been a loyal Gibson customer for years, but this may very well
change that. If they updated the memory again, I could understand, but
no, they are still using memory that can be purchased for a couple of
Anyone know where to get a new echoplex for a decent price?