Re: Percussionist and EDP seeker

["David Kirkdorffer" <vze2ncsr@verizon.net>]

Information seems to indicate that there are no -- repeat -- NO EDP's
presently available via the retail channel in the USA.
The 350 units sitting in a factory in England will be sucked up instantly
once they are paid for and distributed.

David


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Catilyne" <catilyne@icicle.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: Percussionist and EDP seeker


> At 09:13 PM 4/9/2004, Damon Grossman wrote:
>
> >QUESTIONS:
> >Is there another looping product besides EDP that gives you independence
of
> >tracks and stereo?
> >How can i buy two EDPS?
> >How much per EDP should I expect to pay?
> >Should i buy new or used?
> >ebay? I just saw one go for around $630 used. Aren't they around $1000
new?
> >West La Music, a local music store?
> >Direct from Gibson?
>
> Damon, I'm sure a lot of other people will chime in with their thoughts,
> but since it seems to have been a whole two hours with no reply <*gasp*>,
> I'll go ahead and get things kicked off.
>
> First, the EDP+ is listed at Musician's Fiend for $799 even as we speak,
> but from what I understand there's a supply-side problem with actually
> getting them in the stores.  A quick peruse through the archives should
> fill in some of the blanks, or perhaps some of the individuals more
closely
> linked to the situation will step in.  It does seem as if a lot of the
> users here recommend Alto Music, however, and they may be a good bet for
an
> EDP purchase once they begin coming back into the stores.  Used units on
> Ebay may go for cheaper, but make certain they've had their memory filled
> up (the new units come with max memory, if I remember correctly).  Also,
> you may have to pony up for a foot controller if your don't already have
one.
>
> Next, I must say that I agree wholeheartedly with your philosophy
regarding
> stereo (these days, I mostly play synths so all my sound sources are
> stereo).  With the EDP, you do have to buy two units and brother sync 
>them
> together to achieve stereo functionality.  For that reason, I'm not an 
>EDP
> user myself.  Personally, the stereo thing is the one issue that always
> blew the EDP's price-to-value ratio out of the water for me.  If I've got
> to save up almost two grand to get a stereo EDP, then I'll save for a bit
> longer and get an Eventide or, better yet, a Kyma.  Anyway, end soapbox 
>-- 
> as always, YMMV and there are others here who certainly feel differently.
>
> Also, there is evidently an effort in the works to port the EDP's
operating
> software over to the Soundarts Chameleon.  While there will be obviously
be
> some limitations of other sorts on that platform, at least it'll stop
> myself and various others from whingeing on about the EDP's lack of 
>stereo
> support at a reasonable price-point.
>
> As for alternate options, you should start by going through the 'Tools of
> the Trade' section of the Loopers Delight website (
> http://www.loopersdelight.com/tools/tools.html ).  My personal choice is
> the Electrix Repeater, which is a favorite of many others here on the 
>list
> as well.  It features four independent tracks which can be used 
>separately
> or linked into stereo pairs, as well as some nice extras (effects loop,
> ability to shift time and pitch independent of each other, loop
> storage/recall via CFC, etc.).  Though discontinued, you can still find
> them on Ebay for around $800 these days.
>
> Some of the other options that take stereo into account:  On the upper
end,
> you've got the aforementioned Eventide Orville or the Symbolic Sound 
>Kyma,
> both of which will allow you to at the very least reconfigure the
> algorithms in order to customize the box for your task (heck, the Kyma is
> actually a programmable hardware platform which can be customized to be
> just about anything you want -- effects or otherwise).  Then you've got
the
> old dependable Lexicon units -- like the Jamman or the PCM-42 -- which
> still perform well.  And at the low end, you've got quirkier boxes like
the
> Cycloops.  These may not exactly be your cup of tea or they may be 
>exactly
> what you're looking for.  As I said before, YMMV.
>
> >Other percussion loopers unite. I am looking for other loopers who are
also
> >percussionists. It seems that the majority of members of this group are
> >guitarists.
>
> There are a good deal of guitarists here, but there are a lot of other
> instrumentalists as well -- bass, synths, winds, orchestral
> strings....  There are also quite a few kickass looping percussionists
> hanging out here too, but I'll let them step up and introduce themselves
in
> their own time.  Welcome to the list; I don't think you'll be 
>disappointed
> in the least.  :)
>
>          -c-
>
> _____
> "i want to reach my hand into the dark and *feel* what reaches back"
>                                                  -recoil
>