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Playing in time with multiple non-synced loopers... (was: Re: footswitchable series/parallel signal routing schemes)

I found that when using two loopers, or when playing live with two 
using loopers (that are not MIDI synced) a button to retrigger the loop is
the only real way, if you're doing music that is not just floaty textures.

Then you kind of have to tacetly (or verbally, I suppose, if you can
actually hear each other over the din) agree which person (or device, if 
are going solo) has "the loop" and is therefore dictating the time, and
which person is accompanying or soloing over the loop.  If you are
accompanying then you are responsible for getting your loop close enough to
in-time with the primary time-dictating loop, and retriggering and/or
re-recording to keep in time with it.

>From my limited amount of playing in two-looper settings, this is what I
have arrived at.  As long as the musicians have practiced sublimating their
egos and can share who has "the loop" in a musical way, then everything
works fine, and everybody has fun.

Now, you might also just forget about all that I just said and put a
rhythmic loop into one looper, and then overdub volume swell pads into the
other without really worrying about any kind of rhythm to it at all.  Then
sync is not an issue.

Just some blather.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Sanders" <paul_sanders@adelphia.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: footswitchable series/parallel signal routing schemes

> The other thing I'm wondering is how do you manage to sync these loops?
> I've been working with a DL-4 and RC-20 and I've found that if my timing
> isn't
> perfect, the two boxes go out of sync and it sounds like yak dung.
> THis is why I'm going witht he Electrix Repeater solution.
> I think Boss screwed the pooch when they didn't come up with a means of
> syncing
> to an external box.
> Paul
> >
> > Greg