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Re: CHEAP SOLUTION to Breakbeat creation for Live Looping was: BREAKBEATS..................



Unless I'm wrong (don't have time to read everything)
No one has mentioned the akai mdc2000 which can be picked up relatively
cheaply second hand.
This allows u to create drum loops or anything live. Simply put it into
record metronome on use the phones output so u can hear the click, and use
the other 8 outputs for the drum samples. Only u hear the click then.
U can change tracks mute tracks etc. as your going along by simply leaving
it in record mode and changing tracks.
Its one of the best solutions I've used, would like to try the sequencer
that that howie B uses though.

Geoff  


on 10/3/03 5:26 am, Rick Walker/Loop.pooL at GLOBAL@cruzio.com wrote:

> Viz a vis, a cheap solution to breakbeat creation for live looping:
> 
> One really cool thing you can do (especially on a PC with the fabulous
> FRUITY LOOPS PRO which, in my humble opinion is the best drum machine in 
>the
> world and just about to get way better........watch for next month's
> COMPUTER MUSIC magazine from the UK for a cover article covering it) is 
>to
> program really cool drumbeats on a home
> computer and then burn them to a CD.
> 
> Most mixing boards have stereo ins and it is really cheap to buy a 
>walkman
> styled
> portable CD player these days.
> 
> You can either resample the grooves onto your sampler of just play to the
> tracks
> (make sure that you have at least ten minutes per groove recorded so you
> don't run
> out during a long performance) if you are not planning to either loop or
> retrigger.
> 
> the degree of sophistication that you can get with a program like Fruity
> Loops Pro
> is so much more vast and FAST!!!! than you can with a hardware drum 
>machine.
> 
> also, unless you have midi syncability with an EDP, a REPEATER or an old
> JAMPERSON
> you will have to rely on your own rhythmic sense for retriggering anyway.
> 
> a lot of people shy away from this approach but I find it can be very
> effective in
> a live performance to use prerecorded all original drum programming on a
> burned CD
> at a fraction of the cost of either a dedicated hardware drum maching or
> a very expensive laptop*.
> 
> Besides, with programs like Fruity Loops and the cool VST drum machines 
>(and
> even REASON) you don't have to take a whole load of processing and 
>filtering
> gear with you to a gig to get a sophisticated and 'breathing' drum track
> live.
> 
> try it..............you'll like it.
> 
> When I get back from my summer tour of Europe and the British Isles in
> August, I'll
> post a longer post on how to program more realistic drum computer
> programming (even if you are an e-bow wielding ambient guitarist who is
> rhythmicall challenged..........LOL!) using Fruity Loops if there is 
>enough
> interest
> 
> later,
> 
> Rick Walker
> www.looppool.info
> 
> 
> *(and hey, while we are at it,  why does the laptop world lag so damned 
>far
> behind the desktop computer world in the musical realm?   Inexpensive
> stereo firewire solutions for live laptop recording are non-existent so 
>far,
> though there is rumour of a $400 M-Audio stereo firewire box coming out 
>at
> the end of March).
> 
> 
>