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i discovered that i needed to add +1 to the PC message numbers listed in the Repeater manual when i was programming the 1010; the PC numbering scheme must be 0-126 for 1010 and 1-127 for the Repeater (don't ask me why). the only notable exception to this that i have found is that the Record function appears to respond on the listed PC message number (i think it's PC4). hope this helps, mike > -----Original Message----- > From: paulrichard10@attbi.com [mailto:paulrichard10@attbi.com] > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 9:33 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: fcb1010 programming example > > > Having recently purchased an FCB1010 to control a > Repeater, I can appreciate your frustation. > > I've always experienced strange behavior from my > Repeater when attempting to control my Repeater using > PC's only. And this from three (3-count 'em) different > MIDI pedals. > > For some reason, PC's alone don't seem to properly > control MY Repeater. I believe I have the latest MIDI > docs (O/S 1.1 addendum plus I downloaded the latest MIDI > documentation form the Electrix website). And I'm > running O/S 1.1. > > Anyhow, what I finally did to get the Repeater to > function, is to program the specific PC AND the specific > CC to send a specific function (i.e. RECORD, UNDO, etc.). > > Now, it (the FCB1010) works flawlessly. Maybe there are > errors in the docs. Or maybe my Repeater is flakey. > Don't know. Anyhow, try sending both the PC & CC for a > function. > > Regards, Paul > > Thanks for the walk through. At this point I am even more > confused than > > I was before. It appears that my Behringer is sending CC > messages very > > strangely (expression pedal or not). For example, I go to > program a > > preset with nothing in it, choose pedal six (CC) and select > a command > > number and a value. Now the really strange thing is, > neither of these > > seem to match ANYTHING in the Repeater midi command list. > I can enter > > CC #03 and a value of 127 and it sends the Repeater into > record. I can > > send CC#14 and a value of 03 and it sends the Repeater into > record. I > > can send CC#14 and a value of 02 and it starts and stops > the Repeater. > > The really frustrating part of this is not being certain > enough of what > > I'm doing midi wise to troubleshoot this and rule out user > error versus > > a defective unit (Repeater or FCB). > > > > I have a software upgrade on the way so perhaps that will solve the > > problem. Or perhaps I could simply scrap it all and go > back to being happy. > > > > sigh > > > > Kevin > > > > SRice wrote: > > > > >I'm just back from a week away; two things caught my attention > > >skimming LD digests(and deleting every other one.) First is > > >the Doepfer midi controller, which is available "guts only" > > >so I can (try to)attach my own pots. Second was a question on > > >programming the expression pedals of a fcb1010. Here is > > >an example of the latter. > > > > > >I'll start by assuming that is already connecting and working > > >with PC messages. The steps below will program the 1010 > > >so that whenever a switch is pushed, an expression pedal will > > >transmit tempo change midi CC commands to a Repeater. > > > > > >1) Tap the UP and DOWN switches to select a bank. > > > > > >>Each bank must be programmed separately. > > >> > > > > > >2) Pick a switch which will put the expression pedal into > > >change tempo mode. Any of the switches from 1 to 10 may > > >be used. Tap this switch. > > > > > >>Note that within a bank an ex-ped may have more than one > > >> > > >function. > > > > > >3) Depress the DOWN switch for several seconds. > > > > > >>You are down in programming mode. > > >> > > > > > >4) Deselect every switch, and select switch 8. To select > > >and deselect a switch, depress it for several seconds. > > > > > >>At this point switch 8 should be the only switch with > > >> > > >an illuminated LED. > > > > > >>NB: Each switch can send several midi commands, this > > >> > > >example uses only a single CC command. > > > > > >5) Tap switch 8. Switch 8 should now be blinking. > > > > > >6) Tap the UP switch. > > > > > >>This confirms your selection. > > >> > > > > > >7) Raise and lower ex-ped A until the numeric LED shows "9" > > > > > >8) Tap the UP switch. > > > > > >9) Raise and lower ex-ped A until the numeric LED shows "0" > > > > > >10) Tap the UP switch. > > > > > >11) Raise and lower ex-ped A until the numeric LED shows "127" > > > > > >12) Tap the UP switch. > > > > > >13) Depress the DOWN switch for several seconds. > > > > > >>You are now out of programming mode. > > >> > > > > > >So, in order to send a tempo change to the repeater, tap > > >the switch you chose in step 2, then use ex-ped A. > > > > > >If you get unexpected or inconsistent results, the reason > > >is probably that another switch is reprogramming the ex-ped. > > >Either go through every other switch on every bank you use > > >and disable the ex-ped, so that it never gets reprogrammed, > > >or program the desired function for every switch. The > > >ex-peds stay in the last state they were configured by > > >one of the switches. > > > > > >By programming some(often the same) ex-ped function for every > > >switch you can both maintain a given midi cc function for the > > >ex-peds and change their function as desired. For my 1010 I > > >have two banks set up for recording, and on one I use ex-ped A > > >and B for levels on track one and two, and the other bank > > >users A & B for levels on three and four. On two more > > >banks most switches don't send any PC commands, but > > >define the ex-pedals to access the many repeater parameters > > >accessible only by midi CC. > > > > > >Yours in rhythm, > > >Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > >Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > > >http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > -- > > Wonderful! Wonderful! > > The sermon of the inanimate is inconceivable > > If you try to hear it with your ears > > You'll hardly understand > > Only when you hear it in your eyes > > Will you be able to know. > > - Dongshan Liangjie > > > > > > > > > > >