During my JamMan days, I was more about making 3 or 4 parts and toggling between them. I did it in an improvisational style, so I'm not sure if I was every true to the ABACA form, but I bet I was. Raised in the Lennon/McCartney tradition, it's a wonder if I'll ever escape that! Upon switching to the Repeater, I find myself doing that a lot less. Like Matthias, I find the more liquid free form musical morph (gotta bring that buzzword back!) to be more interesting. At least to play. While I LOVE the things Amy X and Brian Kenny Fresno do with their loopers (Brian's a JamMan guy) I always get the feeling that they're just trying to get away with not having to deal with not having a band, you know? Amy seems to have her act down to the note. Sure, the looper helps her do her show more easily, but is that what loopers are about? Not for me, I think. I still am toying with the idea of returning to my "pop" roots and seeing how the Repeater could fit into doing a live performance. To me it seems to be the difference between making soup from a receipe or going to a market, buying what seems good and then making it up from scratch. Sure, you'll come up with stuff that's not so edible sometimes, but you learn with time. Maybe this not so interesting for the audience, but it's a hell of a lot more interesting to me as a musician, and to be honest, with the money I made doing more pop structured music, I'm in this for fun now. (weirdly, I seem to make more money with my music now...) Mark Sottilaro On Friday, October 11, 2002, at 05:31 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > > But I am seriously interested in this trends for structuring. > > First off: I only saw a demo of Amy and have one piece of here here, > but I was deeply impressed by the way she works, really worth a listen > for all of us! > > I wonder where the so typical forms ABACA and such come from and > whether they are needed for the understanding of the public or maybe > are overcome tradition?