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Re: linguistic abuse (was "Loop approach")
Ah, I must jump in, as Japanese is my native language.
Responding to some quotes, somewhat out of context --
>The other thing to factor in with the net is how many people contribute
>whom english is a second language. I think the world is a poorer place due
>to the tyranny of english on the net
I recall a dinner-talk snippet somewhere in Europe, where a person
mentioned: by defining English as the default language, the net has done
Europe a lot of good in proving that French is *not* the 'international'
language as some people believe. Naturally, this person didn't come from
French-speaking nation... :-)
>>This is because language really has little to do with reality--words are
>>just sounds that we have come to associate with real-life objects.
"Words" don't necessarily originate in sounds.
In Japan we have a situation where we have two character sets, one
and one non-phonetic. The non-phonetic characters genererally embody
meaning and not necessary a fixed pronounciation. ...Why? The characters
were imported from China. I must know hundreds of words that I can
understand on paper, but cannot pronounce.
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Returning to even earlier in the thread, the inadequacy of words to
emotions/thoughts/whatever has been a big theme for many a novelist or
too, not the sole domain of non-linguistic arts. I believe it was
perhaps Rhys or even Tim O'Brien, who mentioned that the art of the novel
was to capture a state for which there is no word.
An additional thought, vaguely related to looping: words defining
often define the emotions with which we can identify. Ditto for
in Japanese, I've heard that there are fifty-something variations of the
word "tuna". The quest for precise identification brought birth to those
words, which in turn educates the masses of the finer variations of the "
Thus, the dynamic nature of languages is most likely a result of the
inadequacy of language to express the uniqueness of every subject, be it
material or abstract. What a quest: I find it a positive thing!
Or, taking the other extreme, maybe I should throw the idea that "words
stereotypes." How's that for the ultimate in political correctness? The
logical conclusion to that thought would be for me to keep my mouth
Well, on that note... ;-)
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