Even without pre-recorded loops, a lot of rock music feels pre-planned to the point of lacking spontaneity live. I saw Peter Gabriel in 1987 (only the last third or so of the show) and was relatively underwhelmed. Maybe he was just tired at the end of the tour, but the concert felt so controlled that there was no give and take of energy between him and the audience. On the other hand, I also saw The Stranglers that year and they kicked ass on stage. More recently, Chris Isaak routinely puts on one of the best live shows I've seen. (No looping content, though.) Live shows have a certain level of surprise and risk to them. That's a good part of where the energy comes in. (Okay. It was really surprising when Margo Timmins had to give up on performing a new song during a Cowboy Junkies show at the Catalyst in Santa Cruz because she'd forgotten the words.) Electronic music has never been quite as friendly toward live performance. On the other hand, if Tangerine Dream's _Ricochet_ is even mostly live I really would have liked to have been at those concerts. Mostly now I seem to be either too tired or too cheap to go see shows and the bars seem to cater to a much younger crowd... Mark P.S. You can now draw conclusions about what I listen to though this list is indicative in only the most rudimentary way.