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To kim flint RE:Repeater update...
>>> firstname.lastname@example.org 12/05/00 06:50PM >>>
Hello, Could Someone explain what the repater dos enot do that the
echoplex dose do?
Hi Jeremiah... just have time for a couple quick observations. I'm copying
this to Damon AND Kim for feedback if they care to get caught up in this
> From the alpha manual the repeater seems to be able to do loop copy and
Repeater: Loop Copy sounds like it doubles the loop... and they don't
really make it completely clear if you can arm Overdub so it begins at the
start of the Loop Copy and allows you to play while the loop copy is being
done. So I'm believing that you may have to wait for one Loop Copy cycle
to double a loop... what if you want 16 copies? Do you have to press Loop
Copy 4 times (2 4 8 16?) It doesn't sound like you'll be able to create
odd numbered or even 6, 10, 12 or 14 bar executions. Food for thought...
EDP: Multiply begins at any point in a loop creating a new start point as
well as beginning overdub if you've got the other parameters set
correctly.. So you just hit the Multiply button and start playing your
melody... freely stating any passage you please until you're happy... at
which time you can tap Multiply to stop the process at the end of the
phrase cycle ANY WHERE IN THE CYCLE. If you want to create one long cycle,
you just press record to end the cycle exactly at the tap instead of the
end of the next cycle... creating a single long loop with your melody
overdub... which you can then multiply, divide etc.
> plus longer loop time, better loop storage, stereo looping and pitch
Well sure... storage, stereo looping and pitch shifting with time stretch
will be great features and help make the Repeater unique in it's
desirability. We'll see how well they work in actuality when it ships.
One EDP feature which I really like that I don't believe the Repeater has
is the Insert function. This can work by adding time (new material) to a
loop wherever you tap in and tap out... It can also work as a Replace
function where you can pop in tiny chunks of rythymic feedback, silence
etc. allowing you to completely alter the loop rather than just add to it
or overdub. I manage to migrate around to completely different musical
content using this function. This is a MAJOR feature and I use it
constantly... The Repeater and most other loopers out there don't really
do Insert and Replace in this way. The EDP does this stuff quite simply in
real time IN SPADES. Not to mention that the Insert parameter also has the
Rehearse mode and Reverse mode allowing for still more weirdness... (I
realize that the Repeater has Reverse).
The EDP NextLoop function allows for groupings of dissimilar length loops
which you can freely move between. You don't have to have a midi
controller to initiate a pgm chg to jump to another dissimilar length
loop. Damon has said that a pgm chg to another STORED loop will happen
very fast so it should be functional still doesn't address the fact that
you're not able to record dissimilar length loops in REAL TIME ON THE FLY
and then migrate among them without intensive midi pgm chg tap dancing.
NextLoop also allows for either Copying the previous loop using Multiply
mode to create differing length loops IMMEDIATELY... OR playing real time
NEW material to create a contrast to the previous loop. You can configure
up to 9 of these loops, each having these capabilities, on the EDP. I
usually have mine setup for 3 or 4 loops.
When using my midi controller, I have a bank configured to freely call up
any of these loops with a single button press... I also can tap a button
and change the parameters so that the change occurs either at the end of
the loop or immediately.
This kind of capability and depth doesn't seem likely in the Repeater and
literally ALL other loopers. This is what makes the EDP unique. I won't
say better, because as we've heard before, It's important to critically
assess your needs, THEN choose your product based on that. I want a
Repeater because it appears to include some attractive SAMPLER type
capabilities, as well as stereo. I will probably use the EDP more as a
free form real-time looper... and the Repeater as a way to capture that
stuff in stereo and further mutate it as well as store my best efforts.
> (probably better customer support and reliability if electrix treats it
>like its other products).
Wait and see... I have my own gripes with the handling of the EDP by
Gibson, but I've already thoroughly exhausted them. I won't bother the
group with them any more.
That said... My EDP has been working great since it's first (quickly
repaired under warranty) problem. I trust it at this point fairly well.
I'll stop here for now... As Kim suggests... carefully assess your needs
and select a looper based on your preferences.
All I know is that I'm really hooked on the Insert and Multiply features
the way the EDP has implemented them. I believe Pitch Transposing is
coming in the next ROM upgrade as well as many other hinted at tricks and
treats. So I'm actually very excited and really looking forward to EVEN
MORE functionality for my EDP, with deep, multi-configurable parameters,
which only the EDP s/w team has been able to provide in a product to this