I'm from Ithaca, NY and we used to go see Red Letter. There are a tone of bands that came out of that time in Ithaca with many of the same players and lots of looping. You guys should check out Robbie Aceto. This cat is a loop master and he used to hang with Torn. Also, I'm looking for a Jamman if any one is selling one. MarkB. email@example.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.