Re: EDP Multiply question

["Om_Audio" <clifsound@mediaone.net>]

Thank you so much for the informative response- it really does make sense-
simply make a loop, multiply it if you want to or not- then just use the
loop copy function and play on top as the loop copy is recording new
material as well into the next loop- sweet- Thanks Kim-

Cliff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kim Flint" <kflint@loopers-delight.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: EDP Multiply question


> At 9:12 PM -0700 9/2/00, Om_Audio wrote:
> >Thanks- I was asking for fellow list member Rich who wants to play over
top
> >of the cycle as it gets multiplied 4x- then copy it to next loop and lay
> >things on top of the second loop while maintaining a "clean" version in
loop
> >1- make sense? Thanks-
> >
> >Cliff
>
> ah, I see. That's easy to do anyway, and there is no need to multiply 
>your
> clean original before you copy it to another loop!
>
> You see, LoopCopy of the audio is really just like doing a multiply,
except
> that it goes into a new loop. The copy process lets you create multiples
> and overdub on top at the same time, just like Multiply.
>
> So rather than multiplying your "clean" version first in loop 1 with the
> Multiply function and then copying that to loop 2, you simply start the
> copy with the original when you are ready. It copies into Loop 2 in real
> time, letting you add more material on top as it goes. If you let it keep
> going, it adds multiples of the original until you tell it to stop, just
> like the regular Multiply function. Then Loop 2 has as many multiples as
> you like with your longer phrase on top, while loop 1 still has your
> "clean" original.
>
> Here's a step-by-step, to be clear:
>
> 1. record a 1 bar loop in Loop 1. This is your "clean" original. In
> EDP-speak, this is one "cycle".
>
> 2. let it loop away, while you play whatever you want along with it.
>
> 3. When you are ready to record the longer phrase, start the LoopCopy to
> loop 2.
>
> 4. When the copy starts, you will see the Loop display saying 2 and the
> timer counting up. The multiple display will be showing 1 at that point.
> You will hear the Loop 1 audio continue to play seamlessly, although now
it
> is actually going into Loop 2.
>
> 5. Play your long phrase. Everything you play is being overdubbed on top
> into Loop 2, along with the copied audio from loop 1. The new stuff and
the
> copied stuff are mixed together in real time for you, and recorded in 
>Loop
> 2.
>
> 6. When the copying gets to the end of your original cycle, you will see
> the Multiple display increment by 1, and the original cycle plays again.
> You can keep on playing your longer thing, adding it to the loop in Loop
2.
> Your original cycle is still being copied, for as many multiples of it as
> you like. You can let it go for as long as you have memory. (all of that
is
> just as Multiply works).
>
> 7. When you've got as many multiples as you want, or you've finished the
> longer phrase that is going on top, stop the copy. (you even do this by
> pressing Multiply, to keep it familiar with the Multiply function.)
>
> 8. the Echoplex stops the copy into Loop 2, and immediately begins 
>playing
> back that loop. You'll hear your original cycle repeating for how ever
many
> cycles you gave it, along with the longer thing you've added on top.
>
> 9. Loop 1 of course, is still your original "clean" cycle! Whenever you
> want you can go back to that loop, and have the original cycle play. Now
> you can easily switch between having the basic loop play clean, and the
> multiplied loop with the longer phrase! It will sound just like you are
> turning the longer phrase on and off. It's really a pseudo-multitrack
> effect, except with a performance oriented interface.
>
> The important thing is, you accomplished all of that seamlessly, in
> real-time, with very few button presses, and without any awkward waiting!
>
>
> This is a bit of an advanced function on the echoplex, but once you get 
>it
> there's a lot of power there. We reused concepts like Multiply for this
for
> a reason. We hope that people learn the basics of the Echoplex while
> playing with the simpler functions as they start out. Then as they move 
>on
> to deeper functions, they discover that they already know it!
>
> Similarly, there is time copy. This lets you copy the time base of one
loop
> into another, without the first loop's audio. This one is really just 
>like
> Insert! I'll leave it to you to explore that one.
>
> Hope that helps,
> kim
>
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