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Re: Echoplex=crap for dummies

I am realizing that a lot of electronic products have certain bugs when 
are first released.I think the best thing to do is to wait a bit and 
how it behaves. We have the advantage of the internet to monitor many
products nowdays,so donīt rush and be patient.In the Echoplex case I was 
warned of itīs bugs and i find it hard to believe that Gibson as well as 
sales people didnīt know either.I bought my first one in 1996,returned it
after a couple of months and bought another one in 1997, which didnīt have
the overheating problem but also had bugs. the internal legal problems
behind this product  i did not know either but i payed a lot of money for 
and repairs.This was ignored by the company  in
the past of course and thank God i found this site.In America i was told
that Oberheim in Germany would take care of any problems which wasnīt the
case.That i call conspiracy my friend.They donīt even know what the hell it
If you are in europe be sure to
get names,adresses and telephone numbers of the people who will be helping
you and assisting you if anything goes wrong.This thing is not going to be
cheap here!. I
believe is quite understandable for any consumer to feel this
Nevertheless i must say that the EDP is the best real time looper outhere
Matthias is a

> I don't know whether to kiss my pds-8000 or storm the gates of Gibson 
> machine gun.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: italo de angelis <italoop@hotmail.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 8:07 PM
> Subject: Echoplex=crap for dummies
> > It's almost 4 years that you all guys are pathetically talking about
> > shitty box!!! Can you stop it? Do you understand Gibson doesn't give a
> ....
> > for our "miserable" looping passion, since it's just a poor marketing
> issue
> > for them. At least Lexicon was correct and frank when they dropped 
> > Jamman, too little of a market for it those days, even though they
> > realize how to set up a market for a looping device.
> > Start to be more proud of yourself....off Gibson!!! Let's be real! 
> > talk about the units we NOW HAVE, TCs, Eventides, Lexicons, Kyma and
> welcome
> > Repeater...Let's talk about serious techniques for looping, pre & post
> > processing them and more...stop this miserable crap about "poor us...we
> > don't have EDPs anymore...how can we go on looping???" FUCK GIBSON!!!
> > are selling you shitty harware and miserable software...get a computer
> > start looping seriously...
> > Stop crying!!! Stand up and make the best we can with what we have and
> > to get some more sensitive builder listening to our needs...
> > Start writing to Scott Gilfix at Eventide (scottg@eventide.com) to have
> > properly designed software for looping into their outstanding boxes,
> > ON!!! Fed up with this poor old ladies junk talk be MODERN!!!
> >
> > 
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> >