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Re: xenakis and "drumming" and Jam Man


Xenakis' "Bohor 1" is one of the most incredible pieces I've ever heard.
Does anyone know if there has been any re-release on CD of this?
All I know of is the Nonesuch LP from the 70's which I still have.

Xenakis' music is certainly more "mathematical" than Reich's, though 
"Bohor 1"
in particular has an organic, sound-exploration quality to it that was very
inspiring to me early in my career.

Interestingly, and related to this list, Steve Reich's work with 
"phasing" came about more as an accidental
discovery than as an exploration of a mathematical idea.  Before 
"Drumming" came works
involving tape loops of identical vocal material ("It's Gonna Rain") 
on different reel-to-reel tape decks that,
after initially starting in unison, of course drifted very slowly out 
of sync with each other.
This idea was then applied to a live musician with tape loop ("Violin 
Phase"), and then
musicians without tape ("Piano Phase" and "Drumming"), drifting in 
and out of sync with each other
in an organized way.

When I played in Steve's group in the 70's, I don't believe I ever 
actually saw a score to "Drumming" - it
was just taught to me by example.  It was an incredible piece to play 
(as were others from that era) because you had to pay attention while 
letting yourself go to become part of the group groove - a kind of 
active trance.

Anyway, does anything exist like a stereo Jam Man?  Or is that coming 
with the Repeater?

David Van Tieghem

>Jon Southwood wrote:
>>  Scott,
>>  Can't help you with the Drumming score, but if you're interested in a
>>  musical connection with Le Corbusier, check out Iannis Xenakis.  
>>  actually worked with Le Corbusier for a number of years.  His
>>  composition Metastasis is organized by the ratios of Le Corbusier's
>>  Modulus.  Xenakis also has a couple (more recent) percussion pieces:
>>  Pleiades (not sure of the spelling) and Rebonds.  Both are incredible,
>>  and given his predilection for mathematics, engineering, and
>>  architecture is bound to have some sort of mathematical thread.
>>  If anyone hasn't heard any Xenakis, but has heard of "stochastic music"
>>  (his term) or "granular synthesis" (originates from a section of his
>>  book, Formalised Music), run out and listen to some of his pieces.  My
>>  (beginning) recommendations: Metastasis, Pithoprakta, Tetora, Pleiades,
>>  and Rebonds.  His early electronic music, which featured slowly
>>  progressing transformation of source material might appeal to people on
>>  this list as well.  Check out: Bohor and Concret PH.
>>  Good luck,
>>  Jon Southwood
>>  gamma-ut@home.com
>thanks for the Xenakis mentions. i look forward to finding these...
>might i also add a few of my picks?
>to wit:
>Akrata for 16 wind instruments (1964-65)
>ST/10=1-080262 for ten instruments (1956-1962)
>Atrees (hommage a pascal) for 10 instruments (1962)
>Morisma-Amorisma, for piano, violin, cello, double bass (1962)
>ST/4, for string quartet (1962)
>Nomos Alpha, for cello (1966)
>and i agree Bohor I and Concret P-H are musts, along with Diamorphoses...
>lance g.


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