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whoa! ... as a drummer i take that personally! hehehe :-) i know you're just joking ... but i still take offence to this sort of slag-the-drummer mentality. telling the drummer to play to a guitarist's loops (which are likely either overloaded, wimpish-paddish and/or out of time-tune) :-=( is like the drummer telling a guitarist he's cheating because his guitar has frets. ego damage ensues. but seriously: the problem with live looping/ sequencing is that it can make the music too rigid at times - the damn machines just don't listen to us! ironic: i've actually encountered resistance to my use of sequencing and looping from guitarists! l8ter, rob ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -the man cable- http://themancable.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Andrew Pask schrieb: > > > Oh wow, drummers have been paranoid about > clicks and drum machines since the ark. > > "A drummer is someone who thinks that > time is only a magazine" > > Anon. > > Hi Loopers, > > > > Regarding the 'loop alone' subject, I have found that it is difficult >for > > non-loopers to understand the concept of looping at first. Once they >get > > it, you're ok, if they are competent players. For example, i have been > > trying to get some drummers to wear a earpiece that gets a click feed >from > > me (the looper). I have my JamMan hooked into a Boss DR-770 (set to a > > click pattern). Once I close my loop, the click starts in sync with >the > > loop. Once i shut off my loop, the click stops and we are back into >normal > > play. I have yet to accomplish this 100%, but i am almost there with >my > > current band. The problem usually is in the drummer's attitude. I am > > essentially telling him that he is the tempo keeper, until we hit a >section > > where a loop is, and then he has to follow the click. When that >section > > ends, he is the tempo keeper again. Asking drummers (especially >amateur or > > semi-pro) to follow a click is a tall order! Like you're insulting >their > > playing or something...But to the audience, it would be seamless. > > > > rich > > > > > > At 03:06 PM 1/24/00 -0800, you wrote: > >> ILOOPALONE > >> > >> ---------- > >>> From: "David Potter" <papadave55@hotmail.com> > >>> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >>> Subject: Re: hi all > >>> Date: Mon, Jan 24, 2000, 6:41 AM > >>> > >> > >>> I find the more I loop the less I like to play with non-loop smart >people. > >>> They get in the way. For a non loop jam along fine or a family sing >a long > >>> great. Do most of our loopers prefer to loop alone? I thought postal > > dave's > >>> comment was funny. Om and Out > >>> > >>> > >>>> From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com> > >>>> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >>>> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >>>> Subject: Re: hi all > >>>> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:21:41 -0800 > >>>> > >>>>> "looking to meet up with people to work with" >Andrew. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> and you call yourself a looper.lol > >>>>> > >>>>> your friendly postman. > >>>> > >>>> I'm sorry, what's funny about working with other people? Many >people use > >>>> loops in group situations all the time. In fact, it's a frequent >topic on > >>>> this list. > >>>> > >>>> I guess the postman always works alone. :-) > >>>> > >>>> kim > >>>> > >>>> >______________________________________________________________________ > >>>> Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > >>>> kflint@annihilist.com | >http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > >>>> http://www.annihilist.com/ | > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> ______________________________________________________ > >>> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >