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Hey Rev. Doubt-Goat; I understand your frustration. And i believe i have an answer to your questions. #1 you're gonna have to advertise your shows more to get the smart people to visit you. #2 you will find the people that you're looking for in time, and you will have to let them find you, by way of advertisement. #3 I don't think it is inappropriate to have rock in a theater for classical, I know Ozzy played a theater a couple years back here in Columbus, Ohio. #4 Go check out a King Crimson show and you'll find what you're looking for. #5 NO! #6 It's all in the connections. Jeff Collins collinsclan@sprintmail.com -----Original Message----- From: Rev. Doubt-Goat <dgoat@rocketmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> Date: Saturday, April 11, 1998 6:27 PM Subject: Yuppies and Loops, was Re: Looping show tonight, Friday in Portland, OR >93 > >I apologize to all for the incorrect date in the >message. Obviously, I really meant April 10th. >Slap on the temporal wrist for me! > >On the other hand, the gig has raised a few >questions for me that I'd like to share with all >and sundry. > >To give an idea of the setting for last nights >gig, NW 23rd in Portland, OR is yuppie central. >It's a shopping district, full of little fru-fru >shops and restraunts. Starbucks is a chain >coffee house and suffers from the sterile >interior of all such chains. > >Into this little world set down 2 musicians with >piles of electronic gear full of little blinking >lights, strange 10-string insturments, wild >whammies and machines that go !ping! Have them >play strange drones and dissonant loops, >interspersed with pop songs influenced by the >likes of Bill Nelson and King Crimson, set to >medium volume and then stir vigorously for 2 >hours. > >The result? Instant coffee house clearing! The >Yuppies couldn't seem to understand what we were >playing, the kid's either didn't understand the >loops or were bored by the lack of a constant >beat, and the old folks thought it was too loud! >When we stopped playing, the place quickly >filled up. > >My impression of the night was that we were too >weird for everyone who came through, with maybe >four or five exceptions. I have new appreciation >for what David Torn and Robert Fripp face when >they do this stuff. > >The questions I have are: > >1. Is it possible to play in a non-club setting >with a mixture of ambient, illbient and pop and >have an audience that will understand? > >2. Does the music listening public really only >want to hear remakes of what they are used to? >I play in a standards jazz band as well, and I >know we would have had an audience in the same >setting. > >3. To what extent should the setting determine >the performers actions? i.e. is it appropriate >to play chamber music in a rock club and >noise/performance art in the opera house? > >4. To what extent should the audience reactions >have an impact on what the performer performs? > >5. What are the roles of the performer and >audience? Should there even *be* roles? > >6. etc. etc. etc. > >Of course, I have my own ideas about the above >questions, so I would like to hear everyone >else's opinions! As loopists, I think these >questions are one's we should be asking >ourselves everytime we perform in a public >setting. > >93 > >Rev. Doubt-Goat (Aethetics for all!) > >---"Rev. Doubt-Goat" <dgoat@rocketmail.com> wrote: >> >> 93 >> >> The Ascension Conspiracy will be playing a 2 >> hour show at the Starbucks at NW23rd and NW Hoyt >> in Portland Oregon tonight, Friday April 23rd >> from 8pm to 10pm. Sorry for the late notice. >> Dammit Jim, I'm a musician, not a publicist! >> >> The Ascension Conspiracy consists of: >> >> 1. The Grand Conspirator Orpheus on Stick, bass, >> vocals and loops, and >> >> 2. The Rev. Doubt-Goat on electric guitar, lap >> steel and loops, and >> >> 3. The Right Honourable Alesis SR-16 on >> electronic drums and drum loops. >> >> Loops provided by JamMan. >> >> 93 >> >> Rev. Doubt-Goat (Loops for all! A loop in every >> pot!) >> >_________________________________________________________ >> DO YOU YAHOO!? >> Get your free @yahoo.com address at >http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >