I just got a new Vortex and was impressed with the polyrhythm capabilities and was wondering how you guys may have used this feature?(i just remixed the Dark side of the moon,with the help of the vortex..on the second song..Whats the name?that drum type thing you know...anyway on that part I tapped in the the one beat and set up a polyrhythm of 3:2 in the duo mode>I am wonderin' how you guys use this jamman feature... warning...skip the rest of this caca if you already about what polyrhythms are and how to count them and such!! the definition of a polyrhythm ( for those that dont know) is 2 equally spaced rhythms that occur within the same period of time which are NOT equally divisible into each other.So if in 2 beats we have 2 quarter notes(4/4 time sig.) and 8 sixteenth notes occuring at the same time then this is NOT a polyrhythm.However if in this same two beats we had both 2 qurter notes AND 3 other equally spaeced notes we would have a polyrhythm (woohoo!) about a year ago I devised a boredom killer that involved my watch...one exercise was so take the second( 60bpm-duh) and use a polyrhythm tO calculate a new tempo..actually this can come in handy if you know the tempo of a song you need to play but have no metronome or other way to get the target tempo...for example a 3:2 polyrhythm gives us a tempo of 90 ..to get 75 use a 5:4 polyrhythm..heres a hard one 8:3 (!) gives 160..and so on..anyway I would use my watch to calculate and perform as many different polyrhythms as I could (when bored).Actually with just a watch you can accurately calculate bps of about 2 tempos per 10bps-in about 5bps increments.they became second nature and are no easy to perform...but you may be asking How do I count or figure out how to count a polyrhythm?lets take 4:5 (in 5 beats there are 4 notes)for an example... step 1->multiply the two #s together (4*5=20) step 2->find a beat division where in 5 beats there will be 20 notes(sixteenth notes,or you would know by the 4 in 4:5) step 3->mark every 5th sixteenth note to play... ->started with IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII ->now is xIII IxII IIxI IIIx IIII here is 5:4= IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII XIIIX IIIXI IIXII IXIII try to count 8:3 thats prollay one of the hardest... why do this?how does it help?one instance may be if you play a 3 note pattern in sixteenth notes(x/4time)...the accents are the same as in a 3:4 polyrhythm,better funk playing,challenge,music may call for it,rhythmic freedom,and to simply have a better time feel,ect,ect...blah blah boggle baggle... anyways.... see ya round the horn guys Reeve How Does this related to Loopin'?