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If you just want to mess around with this a bit, there are a lot of websites where you can download breakbeats. You could then put these in a sampler or an audio sequencer program and loop them. If you got into it more, you'd probably want to go for a more DIY approach. I've heard a lot of good things about Recycle, which someone else mentioned. I guess you could also run those breakbeats (or samples you find) through Recycle and chop them up into pieces for your own use. A lot of people seem to use cubase for this stuff, as I understand because it has the best interface for programming drum parts. I never used it, so I can't say. For samplers, the Akai MPC2000 seems to be the choice of the moment for a lot of producers. (shadow used the older MPC60 for most of his stuff.) They have a very usable, drum-machine like interface that makes it easy to use for drum tracks. I've heard good things about some of the new emu samplers too, which are remarkably cheap these days. kim >The recent talk of samplers, and the hope that others are thinking along >the same lines brings up a few questions. How many of us spend most of our >time fiddling with bits of gear at home, trying to improve the quality of >our music ? Our main instruments ( guitars, keys, sticks and the like ) >don't pose too many problems when it comes to knowing what sound we're >looking for ( whether we get it is another matter.. ) and we're fairly >familiar with the gear required. But say you want to record some drum >loops ? Not just your crappy drum machine but the kind of loops that sound >realistic ( DJ's Shadow, Spooky, Krush, Torns's last CD all have great >drum sounds - where'd they get 'em ?) I once sampled ( using the 2.5 sec >one shot sampler on my Digitech Tsr24 ) the drum fade out on the first >Black Sabbath album ( 'Behind the wall of Sleep' I think ) and then >recorded both that and a loop from the guitar onto tape. The outcome was >infinitely more pleasing than most things I'd done using an Alesis D4 drum >module. The 'real' drum sounds made my efforts sound almost, well, 'real'. >So, anyone want to discuss the gear required to bring the rest of our >music into the real world ? >Adat ? Da88 ? , Samplers ?, Computers ?, Emagic,Cubase ? > >All the best >Andrew ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com