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Ray wrote: >On another loopers' tool, I've been having mixed results with my new >ebow. It sometimes takes quite a while for the string to start to >ring, especially when I'm trying to bring out a harmonic that isn't >the octave. Any tips? In addition to the e-bow, I use a Fernandes Sustainer guitar for this sort of thing. It has a switch that lets you put the sustainer circuit in three different modes. One generally sustains the fundamental, another the second harmonic, and the third some higher harmonic. The third mode is really cool, because it basically makes the guitar sound as if you were getting a massive feedback sound, without the ear destroying volume. It also has a level control that basically sets how quickly the note begins sustaining. It is quite a bit faster than the ebow, but I find the two are not quite the same and still use both. Also, using the Fernandes sustainer usually means you are stuck with the Fernandes guitar. I got the cheap-o one, and I don't really care for it much for anything other than the sustain sounds. You can get these installed in other guitars, but it is quite difficult. You have to find a tech that knows how to do it, and it will be expensive. I think Gary Brawer in San Francisco does this; I know someone that had these things installed in some PRS guitars and I think Gary did the work. Anyway, I really like using this with loops. One of my favorite things is to overdub many layers of one "feedback" tone, making a huge sound. Often times I'll use the whammy bar at the same point in the loop on each pass through, usually pulling it in different directions and different amounts. So the loop will go along with some big, consonant sound and then slowly go completely psychotic. Another thing is to make big sustained chords by sliding to a different note on each overdub pass. Since I have such a strong aversion to anything consonant, this usually means stacked half-step intervals, tritones, +5's, major 7's, and such. Actually, even that doesn't sound out anymore, so it often means bending in quarter tones for more microtonal chords. Your mileage may vary.... kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com